This post is the official beginning of a series I want to do from my Grandpa Lyle’s memories.  My mother, bless her heart, who didn’t think to tell me much about her side of the family and didn’t write much of it down, did think to tape interviews with her father over a couple of years.  She had a list of things she wanted him to talk about, and he did although he had his own ideas about what needed to be remembered too.  These interviews were done in February 1985 and February 1986 (my mother was a teacher and these were on her winter vacation visits to her father), when Grandpa Lyle was 88 and 89 years old.  The first in this series was actually my post about Grandpa Lyle and food (a big part of his life for someone who as far as I know never cooked).  This is the next.

The theme of this series is life in north-central Ohio in the early 20th century.  My grandfather was born in 1896 and these stories about life in Ohio were from then to about 1910, some a little later perhaps.  So they provide an “up close and personal” look at what different aspects of life were like in a small village farming community.  Wakeman, Ohio, is located in Huron County and the Vermilion River runs through it.  It is close to the shore of Lake Erie, just south of the lake.  And is part of the historic Firelands area of the Connecticut Western Reserve.

“This little bit of information I lived through and I can give you a fairly accurate description of it. My younger sister, Doris, which was Anna Doris, but she preferred the name just Doris and the word Anna has been left out of her name a good deal. But that’s her correct name. She was born in 1906. We had — six months earlier, knowing that Mother was pregnant, we left my grandfather’s house on River Street and moved into a rented house on Pleasant Street. We lived in that house for a little over a year perhaps. She was born in June. We had lived there six months before her birth and we stayed there until the spring, probably the spring of 1907. That’s as close as I can recall right now.”

“Directly, or not directly, but across the street from where we lived and about two houses to the north of us was an old house that needed a lot of repair. It was being rented to someone there and there was a change of renters and one thing or another. The house was in a low lot and sometimes water would gather around it and there was no basement under it. It was in a very bad shape but the location was good and the framework of the house was good and my father arranged to buy that house for $700, thinking that he would restore it, which he did.”

“We got moved — I have forgotten exactly when we got moved into that house, but it was not too long after he had purchased it. He had contractors come in and place timbers under the framework of the house and start jacking it up. They raised that house very high, I would say a matter of eight or 10 feet and we had to go up steps to get into it. We lived in that house up, that had been raised up there, probably for the better part of eight or nine months, maybe longer. I don’t recall. The reason: he wanted to put a basement under that. And in order to — and the ground surrounding it was low and he wanted the dirt out of the basement to fill up the, and raise the level of the earth around the house so the water would drain away from the house instead of draining towards it. The basement was dug out with pick and shovel for a little while until they could get a one horse scraper and they dug a sort of a passage way that a horse could be driven down under the house and the scraper loaded with earth could be pulled out with the horse and scraper.

Digging a cellar with a horse and a Buck scraper

How many days that took, I don’t recall. But that’s the way the excavation under the entire house — it was a two story house and about six rooms. It was a two story house. The roof needed some repair and it needed repair all over. And, of course, in those days there were no sanitary facilities or no electricity and no plumbing of any sort.”

“But we got the house raised and then Father had the basement all cemented. He prepared a place for a furnace to be installed. He had a division through the center of the house. The furnace and the storage for coal and kindling. We used corn cobs for kindling and they would put in a wagon load of corn cobs in the window. And there were two basement windows and coal would be put in the other one there and it would hold several tons of coal and a load of corn cobs. The partition divided the furnace room from the storage room. My father decided that instead of having straight walls on the sides of his basement, it would be nice to have a shelf to put things. So the wall was constructed down, oh, we’ll say with a 12 inch shelf all the way around. Concrete. The earth was faced with concrete up to this. Then there was a setback of about 12 inches. And then the rest of it was concrete or building tile. I think it was building tile was used — the upper part, to the height that they wanted it. When that was all complete, the house was lowered onto the foundation that had been made. That foundation had to be constructed, and was constructed, correctly so that the house settled onto the building tile and there would be, there was a space of perhaps three feet from the floor of the house down to the self — it was a 12 inch shelf completely around the sides of the walls there — on which we stored everything that you can, a family might want there.”

I actually visited this house as a teenager with my family, I think in the summer of 1961 or so.  I can’t describe it fully and don’t seem to have any pictures of it.  What I remember as a snippet is that the old kitchen had a pump in the sink as a remnant from the time before there was water and indoor plumbing.  There was also a pump in the yard outside.  I was intrigued.  The other clear memory from that trip was that my uncle and cousins made homemade ice cream, taking turns cranking by hand, which I had never seen done before.  It was delicious!

Update: I recently got permission to use the picture I have inserted.  James Morgan of the www.seldomseensheep.tripod.com website was kind enough to allow me to use it.  Although it wasn’t under an existing house, it gives a good idea of what the process was like.  Thank you, James.

My grandfather, Lyle Denman, loved food and loved to eat.  I think this must have been true all his life.  Ok, this doesn’t make him a gourmet but he did like his meals.  And was always interested in where food came from and how you used it or preserved it.

He told the story about traveling with his parents as a young boy, to visit relatives in the West, and many of his memories included food, how they got it, what they ate, etc.  He said that on his 9th birthday, which occurred during that trip, he came to breakfast saying “Today I am nine years old and I am going to eat 9 pancakes.”  And he did!

Because he was interested, he carried the memory of how things about food were done in the early days of his life and he talked about this with my mother during the interviews they did.  Here he was describing the cellar that his father had built under a house in Wakeman, Ohio, that he had moved the family into.  His father had sold the farm and moved the family into town when his wife’s parents needed care and now they were in a house of their own.  These memories would be from about 1907 on.

“And there was ample room there to store crates of potatoes, crates of apples, cabbages, turnips, squash — all the vegetables.  Then there was a place that we had big ten gallon crocks for brine to, for corned beef, and to cure hams and bacon.  They would be cured in brine and then betaken out and smoked.  There was no refrigeration available at that time as we have now.  We did have what was known as an ice box which was kept up in the kitchen.  And we would get a chunk of ice and I will tell you more about the ice business later.  And that we would store milk in up there, and butter and things.

But most things, the meats, were all as they say, “pickled in brine.”  And they would be taken out and smoked.  We had ham, we had shoulders, and we would have spare ribs and things of that sort.  Father would buy half a pig or a whole pig or sometimes a pig and a half depending how many people were to be fed there.   At one time we had a man living with us.  He helped to build the mill and that will be another story.  He would buy a quarter of beef and we would have it cut up and it would be made into corned beef and we would — in the winter time it would be hung out on our large back porch that Father had built on the place.  And we had that screened in so that it could be practically fly-proof, or fly-resistant.  And we would hang the beef and the raw pork out there from the rafters of the porch during the cold weather until it got warm and it was no longer safe to have meat hanging out there.  We would smoke our hams and bacon; we used corn cobs in a metal tray.  We had a barrel, just probably a 50 gallon drum of some sort with both ends out.  And the bottom end was where the metal tray on the bottom — we would dampen them down, pour a little bit of coal oil or gasoline, just a small amount, to start a smudge.  And then we did get the small pieces of hickory bark and hickory to make a smoke there.  And we would smoke hams and bacon in that barrel.  We would hang them, maybe only two or three at a time inside the barrel on sticks placed across the top of the barrel.  And it would take, it would take a week or ten days to smoke them out sufficiently so they would keep through the summer.

Later, those would be taken — after they were smoked and when the weather began to get warm, Mother would slice them all up and place them in jars of lard.  She would have these crocks, a five gallon crock — the ten gallon crocks were used for the brine to pickle the meats or to have the meats cure in the ten gallon crocks.

This crock is used for pickles, not meat, but is similar to the ones Grandpa talked about

But the five gallon crocks was where she would — sausage that was made from the pork — a layer of grease would be poured in, then a layer of sausage, then another layer of grease and a layer of sausage, until the five gallon crock was filled with fresh sausage, covered with lard, pork fat, rendered.  And from time to time during the summer she would dig that out.  That would be, that sausage would not be fully cooked.  It would be heated through and partially cooked.  But it would be so that in the summertime when we wanted sausage, she would take a big spoon or a little trowel of some sort, or some article, and dig out the sausage and we would have sausage and pancakes or sausage and toast, and French toast and things of that sort.  And she did the same thing for ham.  Our hams, when the weather would get hot and we were afraid of the flies getting at the hams — the meat would become fly-blown and could not be used — before that would happen, she would have the hams cut up, sliced, and they would be packed in five gallon crocks, covered with lards.  And when we wanted a meal of ham, Mother would dig it out of the lard there, whatever we wanted for the meal.  And then would, if there was any uncovered, she would pour some of the melted fat back over so that it was completely covered at all times.  That was the way we lived there.”

Update Note: As originally posted, this did not link to all of the sites I mentioned and one of the blog names was incorrect. I have made changes to correct these mistakes.

In reading about the 2010 GeneaBlogger Games, and the current COG, I decided to start a timeline for a couple of my female ancestors and see where it took me.  Seemed like a good idea at the time.  While it has become clear that I won’t be writing the Genealogy Gals’ COG entry this time around, this post will explain why.  You will see just how distractible I am in doing this work.  (I never knew how distractible I can be until I started thinking about how I do my genealogy research!)  To borrow an idea from the Gene Notes blog, I think I have Family Research Attention Deficit Disorder (FRADD which is not yet listed in the DSM but may be in the one coming out in 10-12 years).  So, over the course of the past week, this is what I’ve been doing.

Actually I started with one timeline, for Catherine Justice Coffin (1821-1866), and then something inspired me to start another, Laura Denman Booth (1828-1920).  Truthfully, what made me start the second one was looking at how little information I had about Catherine and remembering that I have a copy of a memoir written by Laura which should give me all kinds of details.  Opportunistic?  Yes, but she is an ancestor and I do have that memoir.  Now just where is it?  I know it’s here on one of the bookshelves…  Before I got too sidetracked looking I thought I’d just list the dates for Laura that I have information for in my computer program.  So I did that.  Now I have 2 little text files of dates and events to work from.

Then, I got distracted by the timeline file Miriam at AnceStories had suggested as an easy timeline form to use.  Some time later I finally had a computer file I thought I could use (either printing it out or filling it out on the computer).  Decided to try it out with my information on Catherine, so I printed one and started writing dates and events.  When I looked at the years I realized I had an 1850 census for her family so went back to my computer file to enter that information for her and source it.  Done.  Thought about the fact that I don’t yet have the other censuses that she should be in.  Contemplated going to look for them and decided that this would really be a distraction.  Better put it on a to-do list.  Then, when I looked at the deaths of some of her siblings when she was young it occurred to me to look at causes of death for them (I have cemetery card images for them).  This raised the question of cholera and when there were epidemics in southwestern Ohio.  Use my search engine to look for epidemics and cholera.  Read that cholera was introduced into the United States in 1832 and there were epidemics by 1833 (when one of Catherine’s infant brothers and a sister died).  Interesting.  There is a family story about one of Catherine’s cousins nursing a neighbor through cholera and  coming home to die of it herself just a brief time before she was to marry (one of my Salt ancestors).

Ok, so I refocused on Catherine’s information and remembered that she had died at a pretty young age (she was 44 in 1866) in Yellow Springs, Ohio (not where she lived) and I had a vague idea that there had been a health spa or something like it in Yellow Springs.  Looked at her cemetery card told me that she was said to have died from pulmonary consumption (probably tuberculosis).  That would fit with having gone to a health spa for treatment.  So I tried, using my trusty search engine, to find out about health spas and Yellow Springs.  With some, but not great, success.  So I thought of my friend the archivist at a college in Ohio who might know.  So I emailed him.  And got a couple of suggestions about where to look for information about the early history of Yellow Springs.  Stopped to look for a book I thought I remembered had been published on the history of Yellow Springs by the newspaper there.  Found it – shall I order it or not?

The other piece of information I noticed in my RootsMagic file was a note that I had a piece of silverware that had been Catherine’s, with her initials on the front and date on the back.  The date was what would have been their 25th wedding anniversary, so I’m guessing that this was a present for that important date.  I wanted to look at it to remind myself, so I went looking in the silverware drawer in the kitchen.

Didn’t find the small knife I was looking for but did find a pickle fork and it too has her initials and the same date on the back.

Catherine's butterknife and pickle fork

Finally found the knife put away in another drawer for safekeeping.  No legible mark on the back to tell me who the manufacturer was or the pattern.  Back online I went to try to track this down – I want to know about these pieces.  Hours later, I may have figured out the manufacturer but haven’t found a picture of the pattern I have yet.  Decided that I should take pictures with my digital camera of the two pieces to add to my files on old family possessions, and to add to the genealogy file on Catherine.  Got several that I thought are all right, downloaded them to the folders I want them in, made a version to attach to my genealogy file on Catherine.  And that is where that project stands.

Except that I read a comment on Miriam’s blog from someone (Michelle Goodrum) who left a link to show how she had used the timeline and when I looked at her site I realized that she had made the form landscape instead of portrait and added a Sources column to the others.  What a good idea!  So I’m off to edit my form.

This is another vignette from my grandfather’s memory.  Lyle M. Denman (my grandfather) was 89 or 90 at the time my mother interviewed him for these stories.  It turns out that his memory was pretty good but not perfect (surprised?) which I know because a typed copy of a Civil War journal written by Grandpa Minor (Charles E. Minor) turned up in the family, to which Lyle added a couple of pages to back in 1969 when he was only about 73.  He gave details to some of these stories and remembered a little more than he did in 1985-86.

Lyle Denman about age 3-4

The stories I am posting now are from the interviews and I haven’t edited them for additional information from the earlier material.  I may expand them in the future.  Anyway, this is one of Grandpa Minor’s stories about being in the Civil War as told to the young boy, Lyle (picture to the right).
“At the time of the Civil War, President Lincoln called for 90-day volunteers. Many of the young men around Wakeman volunteered for the 90 days. And when the 90 days were up, a lot of them returned home. And my grandfather, in great disgust, always talked of them as the 90-day gang. He had very little sympathy or cared very little to mingle with those. He reenlisted for the duration and he stayed on until the, until the war was concluded. And then, following the surrender at Appomattox, instead of asking for a discharge to go home, he volunteered to stay on one year more as an officer to receive, to swear in the Confederates, the people who had seceded had to swear in and be registered as residents of the United States again — because they had seceded from the Union. And he spent one year at, I think it was Falls Church, Virginia, was his headquarters there. And all together, he put in a little over five years for the government at that time.

Now among the one or two little experiences he had. He had been wounded one time and he had been in the hospital. He was wounded five times. But one of the times, he had been in the hospital and he was pretty weak but it was a nice day, in April I believe he said. The weather was pretty nice but he had no overcoat and he went to the quartermaster and got a new overcoat. And it was a little bit chilly and he wanted — the field hospital was located some distance back of the firing line. He was an artilleryman and he made his way up to the field artillery was being fired.

Soldier in Greatcoat by Artillery

Union soldier in overcoat

The infantry was all ahead of them, down in the flats, and they were firing over the head of the infantry on the members of the South — as he termed them, as they called them, the rebels. And he noticed that they were having a problem and he walked over and talked with the commanding officer there and told them that he was an officer in the field artillery and could he be of any help. And he took his overcoat off and folded it carefully and set it on the ground at the base of a tree, because it had warmed up — and was over talking with this field artilleryman when, all of a sudden, come bouncing across the field, a cannonball came across the field, hit the overcoat that was folded up and ripped it to pieces, or tore it to pieces. Had he been sitting there, he would have been killed. He said he had quite a time explaining to the quartermaster what happened to his overcoat!

Another time, the cannonballs that were fired by the rebels, as we’ll call them, as they were called in those days. A cannonball came bouncing across a field there and this one man thought it was just about expended and he tried to stop it with his foot. The result was that he lost his leg. And shortly after that, a notice appeared on the headquarters: ‘Anyone attempting to stop a moving cannonball will be disciplined.’ ”

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Library of Congress, Prints & Photographs Division, [reproduction number (LC-B811-2582B)]

part of Selected Civil War photographs, 1861-1865 (Library of Congress)

I am the very fortunate holder of several pieces from my mother, the sort of gold that genealogists yearn for.  I have three taped interviews my mother did, two with her father and one with a “cousin”, all about their memories and stories from the past.  I also have an autobiography written by my mother.  These are sources of information that I might not/would not have had otherwise.  So I am grateful and have been known to encourage friends and acquaintances to create their own interviews while the opportunity exists.  If you have a parent, aunt/uncle, older cousin, even older sibling – consider asking for stories that person remembers from childhood and asking to record the stories.  Having my mother’s voice and my grandfather’s talking about times past is priceless, as the commercial says.

The focus of this post is one of the interviews done with my grandfather, more than twenty years ago when he was in his 80s.  I not only have the tape (and have digitized it), but I had it transcribed.  My goal is to present the individual stories my grandfather told, adding a little context and maybe a picture or two.  The story today is one he told about his grandfather’s experience as a young man hiring out to chop wood.  My grandfather, Lyle Denman, lived from 1896 to 1997.  His grandfather, Charles Minor, lived from 1837 to 1913. Lower Mississippi RiverThe family lived in north-eastern Ohio in a village called Wakeman in what is now Huron county, just south of Lake Erie (the small black unlabelled dot in north eastern Ohio on the map).

Grandpa Minor lived with Lyle’s family from about 1900 to 1905, when my grandfather was about ages 4 to 9.  The arrangement was that if my grandfather was good, and didn’t bother his grandfather unduly during the day, then he would be told a story toward the end of the day.  Here’s one my grandfather remembered and told my mother, about when his grandfather was a young man before the Civil War (probably sometime between about 1853 and 1860, when he was between 16 and 23):

“In the winter time there was absolutely no work for young men around Wakeman, just a case of waiting for spring planting.  Once the fall crops had been harvested, there’d be several months that they had to wait without much to do.  One year, my grandfather saw an ad in the Cincinnati Enquirer asking for woodcutters along the Mississippi to prepare wood for the steam boats.  Grandfather and another young man, paid their way to Cincinnati, where they were picked up by the corporation wanting the wood cutters, and taken to Memphis by steamboat where the headquarters of the logging company was.Mississippi steamboat

On the way down the river, all the passengers lived up on the second deck.  Down below, they would stop at the various little hamlets and towns and maybe take on a cow or some chickens or something that was to be sold at New Orleans or down river someplace.  And all of the deck hands that handled that stuff were black.  And the waiters that waited on the tables for the passengers on the second floor were all black.  There was ample food and great quantities of it were served and there was always a lot of it left over on the table.  Following each meal, two of the black hands, or four, would appear with two tubs.  One tub was for dishes.  The other tub was for uneaten food.  Every bit of food that was uneaten was scraped into a tub.  The dishes were put in another tub.  The uneaten food was taken to the lower deck where the deck hands, with their fingers, helped themselves and that was how they were fed.  They were fed with the unused portion of the meal from the passengers above.  It doesn’t sound too sanitary.  But then, that’s the way it was in those days.

Arriving at Memphis, they were signed on and taken down the river in a smaller boat to a certain place.  I could have been mistakened, whether it was Memphis or Natchez, but I think it was Memphis.  At any rate, the headquarters of the wood cutters were there and the two men were each given a rifle, a blanket or two, some blankets, and the boat that took them down had provisions.  They had salt pork, sow belly as they called it, and corn meal and coffee and beans.  They were given a rifle, a light weight rifle with ammunition.  And when they were finally established at a certain place, I think it was someplace in Mississippi along the river, they were told to make camp.

They were given a tent to live in and they made camp and were told how to prepare the wood.  It had to be cut in — I think it was four foot lengths.  And they were paid so much a cord for the wood, and every two weeks the supervisor’s boat would come by and measure up the amount of wood that they had cut.  Cottonwood was the main wood that they cut.  And it had to be piled on the bank where it could be loaded.  When the steamers needed it, they would lower their gangplank and the crew would carry the wood on board to take them to the next station, wherever they needed it.  And the men would always take their rifle with them and sometimes they would shoot a wild turkey or shoot — one time they shot a deer.  And they feasted on the meat as long as it was good.  And they learned how to trap wild turkeys.  They found a supply of ear corn and they would shell off a few handsful of corn.  They would dig a trench that got a little bit deeper and deeper along.  And then over the end of that trench they would build a house of saplings, just little sticks cut and laid across each other to make a house big enough to hold a turkey or two at the end of this trench that they’d dug.  And as the trench deepened, the turkeys — they would string the corn, one kernel at a time following the other and the turkey would begin eating and would eat his way down to the end.  And when he reached the end where there was no more corn, he’d raise his head up in the air and try to get out.  He didn’t know enough to duck his head down and go out the same way he came in.  And he was trapped inside of the little homemade trap that had been made which was nothing more or less than saplings criss-crossed and made into a little house.  And in that way they provided themselves with turkey and occasionally they would shoot quail or other food.  And that’s the way they provided their food.

And for water they had two buckets or more.  Each morning they would fill a bucket of water out of the Mississippi River and set it to settle.  It was always muddy and murky.  And it would settle until evening.  When evening would come, they would pour off the top and that was the water that they had to drink. First, though, they would boil it.  They had to boil it and let it cool.  And at night they always had a bucket or two of water setting there ready for the mornings to repeat.  The mud and sediment would settle to the bottom and they would pour off the water, boil it, and make use of it in their coffee or drink it.  That was their drinking water.  After they had been there for — they went down in the fall perhaps — he didn’t say or I don’t recall what month.  It could have been November or October — after the local harvest : apples and corn had been harvested in Ohio — is when they went down there.  And they stayed until along in the spring, perhaps the month of May.  That was not — I do not recall his exact time that they decided they had been there long enough.  So when the supply boat came, they told them that the next week they would break camp and wanted to return home.  Which was accomplished.  They were taken to the — they had all they needed.  They had no money or anything.  But the supply boat, the inspector or the manager would give them a receipt for so much wood cut and piled each time he came along.  And those receipts were taken to the office and they collected their money and returned home.”

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