I was happily listening to a Genealogy Guys podcast as I drove to work the other day, and my attention was particularly caught by an email they read and discussed briefly toward the end. The email was from a guy who had emailed them before about how to get copies of some family information he had discovered was in a library. He was living too far away to make going to the library feasible and was stuck. George and Drew (who are big library supporters) had suggested that their correspondent contact the librarian and ask some questions about exactly what the library held and how to get copies. The current email reported a big success. This reminded me that I have myself found valuable family information in libraries (that I would not have thought to look in), and the combination led me to decide to post today about some of the places I have learned to explore for aspects of family history that are not the traditional places.

First, I learned from my professional office partner years ago that emailing or calling people who might have information you want often works very well. Now, maybe you don’t need to be told this. Maybe it is really easy for you to pick up the phone and call someone to ask for help/a favor/information that is their area of expertise. This is something that is very difficult for me to do, and so wasn’t something I automatically thought of when I had a question. The widespread use of email has helped, although I have also learned to make those phone calls if I really want something.

So where have I found family history information or documents? My list includes: College/university archives and Special Collections; the Rutherford B. Hayes Presidential Center library; eBay alerts; various Town Halls.

One of the first places I discovered was various college and university archives as I began to track down the education of different family members. I was trying to trace my mother-in-law’s education and she wasn’t alive to ask.

U.B. 1930

So I started emailing the three universities she had reportedly graduated from. In my experience, the school’s archivist (or someone in that office) is almost always willing to direct you to the right person to get student transcripts from (assuming that the archives doesn’t hold them, which they sometimes do). You can also get copies of schedules for the time period (when classes started, when breaks were, when graduations happened, etc). Sometimes you strike it rich and there are yearbooks or class pictures which you can get copies from. I got a first year of law school picture for my father-in-law that way. I now also have a copy of my Grandpa Lyle’s transcript from his one year of college in Ohio. (I’m still searching for my mother-in-law’s education beyond her college graduation. She attended a Master’s program at the University of Chicago for parts of two years but left without graduating.)

At college or university websites it also can pay off to explore the Special Collections catalog. I found a whole collection for the Sweet family that included an ancestral tree and

Sweet ancestral tablet page

a number of photographs of my family members. I have to admit that I didn’t find this one by browsing their catalog, but was pointed at it by someone else referring to it – I think in an online family tree. I also found a collection that has pictures of the family of Judy’s favorite, the Davies mansion, in the Yale library collections. Judy and I plan to go together to see this collection one of these days. Finding aids for the collections, when they are available, tell you more clearly what is in a collection (as my sister-in-law the librarian and archivist would tell you).

The Rutherford B. Hayes Presidential Center deserves special mention for several resources it has online. Also for the wonderful responsiveness of its librarians/reference workers. The obituary collection it maintains is now also available on Ancestry.com, but I prefer to go to the original site (the horse’s mouth as it were). If you want to order a copy of anything you find, you have to go to the site to order it anyway. While the strength of the resource is finding Ohio people, there are sometimes people from other places included. For example, my grandfather-in-law was found there because his death was an accident involving a car and a train and it was reported in the local newspaper in the Indiana county just across the state line from Ohio. Also sometimes people who either themselves were from Ohio but didn’t die there or whose parents were get included. Besides obituaries there are other papers and references to biographical sketches etc. in the same database which is searchable by last name. I got information about several of my Snow and Denman line, as well as Shelton just recently. And I scored early by finding a whole folder of letters written by a cousin who was doing genealogy in the days when you had to write letters. She corresponded with one of the Hayes librarians and told him about what she was trying to find for several different family lines.

EBay alerts is something I actually have written about before, at least in passing. That was how I found the collection of Shelton pictures that I acquired. I first learned about doing this from Lisa Louise Cooke’s podcasts, and I try to keep several active. You do a search for something on eBay, like the place your relatives came from for example and then save it with instructions to email you when there is anything new. You have to sign up for an eBay account, which is free, in order to save your searches. Right now, I have 3 active searches, for Wakeman Ohio, Clermont county Ohio, Ohio Military Institute. I get hits for Wakeman fairly often, and little for the other two. I’m still hoping for a year book for my father’s senior year at the Ohio Military Institute.

Last, but not least: whenever you have to be in a Town Hall for genealogy information ask about local books or booklets. I bought a booklet done for the bicentennial of Neversink Township years ago, and it has all sorts of bonuses for me. Including an image (unfortunately not very clear at all) of the original deed to William Denman for the land he settled the family on originally. Also a transcript of a letter about those original Denmans, which described their living circumstances as seen by a visitor in 1797 when they were still living in a log lean-to. In another case I learned of a book about the town (Ashford Connecticut) that I was able to purchase. It has a history of the town from its beginnings, various pictures and lists of various groups (like early selectmen, etc.). This one not only includes a couple of my relatives, but also helps me see the context of their lives in that place and time.

In photographing the pictures in one of my old albums I pulled out a small newspaper column, an obituary for a Mabel L. Dodd.  I’m pretty sure that it was originally tucked into the frame of one of the pictures, but now I don’t know which one.  I took it and a loose photo of a man out of the album as we were taking pictures of the pages.  I meant to put them back where they came from but somehow that didn’t happen.  Both the loose picture and the scrap got put back into the album as I packed my things up for the trip home.  But the scrap didn’t get put back with the picture it had been with, nor did the loose picture.

As I was putting albums back on the shelf and putting the electronic files on my computer and emptying the canvas bags after my adventure with Ann, I found the scrap of newsprint again.  Hm…an obituary for a Mabel L. Dodd…who was she?  Why was this saved so carefully and why was it kept with a specific picture?  (Or was it just randomly tucked into the album?)  Was it a picture of her?  I remember seeing this scrap tucked into one of the frames in the album on more than one occasion as I looked through the pictures.  And I have thought about it briefly and wondered if she was a school friend or something since I didn’t recognize the photo or the name at all.  I wonder if I can figure out which picture it was with?  If I can reunite this newspaper obituary with a photo, is it a picture of Mabel?  I know none of the pictures is labeled as Mabel.  And who was she?  I don’t even know for sure who this album belonged to, although I think know the line through which it came to me.  Was she a friend or a relative?  Her name doesn’t show up in my database but that doesn’t mean she isn’t a relative.

Mabel Dodd obituary

Mabel Dodd obituary

I started looking online: what could I find, if anything, on Ancestry or FamilySearch?  The newspaper obituary did not include any information about when it was or where it was.  It did include her deceased husband’s name and a surviving son’s name.  I quickly confirmed her death, in 1972, via the Social Security Death Index and that told me it was in Toledo, Ohio. Next on the Index of Ohio deaths on Ancestry I found her parents’  names listed.  George Lane and Mary Wiley.  The obituary also noted that burial was in Spring Grove Cemetery in Cincinnati.  Now I had another place to look, since I know that Spring Grove has a nice website that allows searching for names.  I found 3 Dodds by searching the last name.  Spring Grove’s site also lets you search by location, and now I had the section and lot numbers to play with.  Using these I found both of Mabel’s parents and several in-laws, all in the same section and lot.  Spring Grove provides a PDF copy of the burial information so I downloaded all of these.

Mary W Lane cemetery card

Mary W Lane cemetery card

The best lead was the information on Mabel’s mother’s burial card that her parents were Samuel Wiley and Mary Richards.  Mabel’s name isn’t in my database, but Samuel Wiley’s and Mary Richards’s are.  And when I look, there is Mary Wiley listed as their youngest child based on the 1860 Federal census.  I have no information for this Mary other than an estimated birth year (from the 1860 census).  Now I potentially have several pieces of information for her, including a husband and at least one child (Mabel).

Ohio is a wonderful state to be researching because there are a number of places where there is information online to be had.  Death certificates between 1908 and 1953 are indexed in several places, including the Ohio Historical Society, Ancestry.com and the FamilySearch Pilot sites.  The images of these are available on the beta FamilySearch.org site, which I think you have to register on in order to be able to download.  Since I have already registered here, I was able to find and download the death certificates for those people who died before 1953.  I don’t have a death certificate for Mabel but I do for her parents.  This website also has Ohio marriages indexed, although there are no images.  So now I also have marriage dates for Mabel’s parents and for Mabel (as well as everyone else in this general family line I could think of!).

But my real question is what is the relationship between Mabel and any of my relatives.  I have wondered and struggled with the Wiley-Thompson relationship since I first went through one of our family Bibles that included a lot of information about them.  Another daughter of Samuel Wiley and Mary Richards, Martha J. Wiley married George Thompson.  I have not been clear about what the relationship is, but the Bible came to us from a collateral Salt line so I have assumed that there is a connection with the Salt family somewhere.  Thus they are already in my database.  And it turns out that Mary Wiley is also already there, I just didn’t know anything about her spouse or children.

Figuring out the relationships is more complicated.  Finally, by using RootsMagic’s ability to show relationships I can see that Martha Wiley was the aunt of Margaret Thompson Day who married Edward W. Salt, Jr.  Since Mary Wiley was a sister of Martha and Nancy (who was Margaret’s mother), she was also an aunt.  So Martha and Mary were great aunts to Ray Salt (George Raymond Salt), son of Margaret and Edward W. Salt, Jr.  And, ta-da, Mabel who was a daughter of Mary, would have been a first cousin once removed to Ray Salt.  In fact, when I searched the censuses, I found Ray living with George and Mary Lane and Mabel in Cincinnati in 1910.  He was boarding with them.  Ray was a first cousin of my paternal grandfather’s (Henry C. Salt), so the Wileys and Thompsons are not directly related to me but now I know why information about them is in my photo album and family Bible.  Whew!