{"id":5563,"date":"2013-07-14T12:16:03","date_gmt":"2013-07-14T16:16:03","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/genealogygals.com\/blog\/?p=5563"},"modified":"2013-07-14T20:33:34","modified_gmt":"2013-07-15T00:33:34","slug":"do-you-know-these-people-mystery-photographs","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/genealogygals.com\/blog\/do-you-know-these-people-mystery-photographs\/","title":{"rendered":"Do You Know These People?  Mystery Photographs"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Among the various things I have \u201cinherited\u201d from my Aunt Susan, was a frame with two pictures side-by-side.\u00a0 <a href=\"http:\/\/genealogygals.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/07\/IMG_0001-horz.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignright size-medium wp-image-5559\" alt=\"IMG_0001-horz.jpg\" src=\"http:\/\/genealogygals.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/07\/IMG_0001-horz-300x256.jpg\" width=\"300\" height=\"256\" srcset=\"https:\/\/genealogygals.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/07\/IMG_0001-horz-300x256.jpg 300w, https:\/\/genealogygals.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/07\/IMG_0001-horz-150x128.jpg 150w, https:\/\/genealogygals.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/07\/IMG_0001-horz-233x200.jpg 233w, https:\/\/genealogygals.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/07\/IMG_0001-horz.jpg 898w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a>The frame was the kind that stands on a piece of furniture and I imagined my Aunt Susan keeping this on her dresser top or a table near a favorite chair.\u00a0 I don\u2019t know that this was where she kept it, but it seemed like the sort of picture you would place that way.\u00a0 Sadly, I have no good idea who these people were.<\/p>\n<p>When I pulled this picture out of the box of things, I noticed that it wasn\u2019t well-framed, that the pictures were not matted and were touching the glass.\u00a0 So one day I took the frame apart, hoping that the backs of the pictures might tell me something about these two.\u00a0 A photographer\u2019s stamp, a date, or better yet a name written on the back.\u00a0 Anything could be helpful.\u00a0 The two pictures were mounted at the top on cardboard backings, but unfortunately there was nothing to provide any hints about who they were or when or where the pictures were taken.\u00a0 Except there was some mold on the back of the woman\u2019s picture, probably from being pressed into the cardboard and having been in a house in Florida for a long time.\u00a0 I scanned the two individual pictures and then took them down to my local framer who is good about handling old photographs.<\/p>\n<p>He was not able to do anything about the mold and could not promise he could safely remove the picture from the cardboard backing.\u00a0 The man\u2019s picture was not moldy and came off its backing easily.\u00a0 So I ended up having his picture framed separately, although I had planned to re-frame the two together as they had originally been.<\/p>\n<p>The more I looked at the man\u2019s picture the more I was sure that he must be from Aunt Susan\u2019s Salt family.\u00a0 In looking through an album of old pictures I re-found 2 pictures of young <a href=\"http:\/\/genealogygals.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/07\/Edward-Wilshire-Salt-Jr2.jpg\" target=\"_blank\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft\" style=\"background-image: none; padding-top: 0px; padding-left: 0px; display: inline; padding-right: 0px; border: 0px none;\" title=\"Edward Wilshire Salt, Jr2.\" alt=\"Edward Wilshire Salt, Jr2.\" src=\"http:\/\/genealogygals.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/07\/Edward-Wilshire-Salt-Jr2._thumb.jpg\" width=\"172\" height=\"220\" border=\"0\" \/><\/a>men that looked somewhat like this older man.\u00a0 Based on eye color, and the fact that one of them died as a young man, I entertained the possibility that the other is the same as the older man.\u00a0 Luckily at some point my mother had gotten help identifying some of the pictures in the old album and this young man was named:\u00a0 Edward Wilshire Salt, Jr.<\/p>\n<p>So from this, I have developed my own story about the likely identity of these two older people, based on what I know about the Salt family relationships and who my Aunt might have had pictures of.\u00a0 I believe that the man was Edward Wilshire Salt, Jr. and the woman was his second wife, Clemma Day Swope.\u00a0 Edward (who seems to have gone by E.W. at least on official records)\u00a0 was the younger brother of Aunt Susan\u2019s father, so he was her uncle.\u00a0 He had been part of the legal proceeding when Susan\u2019s father was probated insane and committed to the state mental health hospital, acting as protector of the children\u2019s interests, and I expect he continued to take some part in helping his brother\u2019s family after that.\u00a0 Since Susan was only an infant when her father was hospitalized, Edward may well have served as a father figure for her.<\/p>\n<p>If the woman is Clemma, she would have been the only wife of Edward\u2019s that Susan would have really remembered.\u00a0 Edward\u2019s first wife, Clemma\u2019s sister Margaret, had died in 1895 when Susan was barely two years old.\u00a0 Margaret and Edward had two children, who were older than Susan and her brother by 2-9 years.\u00a0 Edward married Clemma 2 years after Margaret died, so Susan was not quite 4 years old.\u00a0 Edward and Clemma moved West sometime between the census in 1900 (where they were found in Tate Township, Clermont county, Ohio) and the one in 1910 (where they were found in Reno, Nevada).\u00a0 Since Edward\u2019s daughter had married and was living in Reno in 1910 as well, it may be that Edward and Clemma moved to Nevada to be closer to his daughter.  So, Aunt Susan wouldn&#8217;t have seen much of them after their move West, but might well have wanted their pictures where she could see them.<\/p>\n<p>In the end I am left with the question: is the older man Edward W. Salt?  (If he is then it seems highly likely that the woman is Clemma Day Swope Salt.)  A brief trial of Picasa&#8217;s facial recognition suggested that the older man is the same as the younger (named) man.  Any thoughts out there?<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Among the various things I have \u201cinherited\u201d from my Aunt Susan, was a frame with two pictures side-by-side.\u00a0 The frame was the kind that stands on a piece of furniture and I imagined my Aunt Susan keeping this on her &hellip;<\/p>\n<p class=\"read-more\"> <a class=\"more-link\" href=\"https:\/\/genealogygals.com\/blog\/do-you-know-these-people-mystery-photographs\/\"> <span class=\"screen-reader-text\">Do You Know These People?  Mystery Photographs<\/span> Read More &raquo;<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[299,298,104],"class_list":["post-5563","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-misc","tag-clemma-day-swope-salt","tag-edward-w-salt","tag-salt-family"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/genealogygals.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/5563","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/genealogygals.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/genealogygals.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/genealogygals.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/genealogygals.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=5563"}],"version-history":[{"count":9,"href":"https:\/\/genealogygals.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/5563\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":5573,"href":"https:\/\/genealogygals.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/5563\/revisions\/5573"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/genealogygals.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=5563"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/genealogygals.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=5563"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/genealogygals.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=5563"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}