{"id":5965,"date":"2014-12-19T16:43:24","date_gmt":"2014-12-19T21:43:24","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/genealogygals.com\/blog\/?p=5965"},"modified":"2014-12-19T17:32:08","modified_gmt":"2014-12-19T22:32:08","slug":"an-afternoon-in-ditchling","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/genealogygals.com\/blog\/an-afternoon-in-ditchling\/","title":{"rendered":"An Afternoon in Ditchling"},"content":{"rendered":"<figure style=\"width: 244px\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\"><a href=\"http:\/\/genealogygals.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/12\/IMGP4905-with-OMH-marked.jpg\" target=\"_blank\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"background-image: none; padding-top: 0px; padding-left: 0px; display: inline; padding-right: 0px; border: 0px;\" title=\"IMGP4905 with OMH marked\" src=\"http:\/\/genealogygals.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/12\/IMGP4905-with-OMH-marked_thumb.jpg\" alt=\"IMGP4905 with OMH marked\" width=\"244\" height=\"184\" border=\"0\" \/><\/a><figcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Map of Ditchling<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>So we set off to spend an afternoon in Ditchling with our new-found cousins and to meet the widow of the archivist for the <a href=\"http:\/\/ukunitarians.org.uk\/ditchling\/\" target=\"_blank\">Old Meeting House<\/a> and another avid Denman researcher (who is related to the Sussex Denmans but much further back in generations).\u00a0 <a href=\"http:\/\/genealogygals.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/12\/IMG_1290.jpg\" target=\"_blank\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft\" style=\"background-image: none; padding-top: 0px; padding-left: 0px; display: inline; padding-right: 0px; border: 0px;\" title=\"IMG_1290\" src=\"http:\/\/genealogygals.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/12\/IMG_1290_thumb.jpg\" alt=\"Old Meeting House signpost \" width=\"244\" height=\"184\" border=\"0\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>To briefly recap the two lines of most interest to me (and my cousin): I descend from William Denman and Ann Boorman who married in 1790, lived in Hythe in Kent and migrated to America in 1795 with 3 young children.\u00a0 My cousin descends from Michael Denman and Elizabeth Hubbard who married in 1784 and raised their family in the area of Hurstpierpoint, Sussex.\u00a0 I have also connected with another cousin who descends on this line from a different son than my English cousin.\u00a0 It is discovering the parents for both William and Michael Denman that we are interested in.<\/p>\n<p>A relative , John Bluet Denman, in the 1970s or early 1980s created a family tree for my line (for my uncle, Richard Denman) showing William as the son of William Denman and Ann Marten and showing Michael as also the son of these two.\u00a0 At least one other Denman researcher has also placed my William as son of William Denman and Ann Marten.\u00a0 With no church register currently available, and no will for the father William, to date there is no\u00a0 evidence supporting this part of the tree.\u00a0 Apparently there was a church register of births and deaths originally, which was seen and used by various researchers (including perhaps John B. Denman and certainly Leonard Maguire, archivist for the Old Meeting House) but which has gone missing since the mid-1980s or so.\u00a0 This register covered approximately the years 1737 \u2013 1810 (during which my ancestor William was born and baptized as an adult into the church and Michael also would have been).\u00a0 As a congregation of a non-confoming and often persecuted church in England the records were never part of the officially recognized public records like the parish records or Bishop\u2019s Transcripts and I\u2019m told that records were often kept at a member\u2019s home rather than the church (even after there was a church building).<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/genealogygals.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/12\/IMGP4886.jpg\" target=\"_blank\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft\" style=\"background-image: none; padding-top: 0px; padding-left: 0px; display: inline; padding-right: 0px; border: 0px;\" title=\"IMGP4886\" src=\"http:\/\/genealogygals.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/12\/IMGP4886_thumb.jpg\" alt=\"IMGP4886\" width=\"244\" height=\"184\" border=\"0\" \/><\/a>One of the pictures that didn\u2019t get taken was of the tea party we had on the small lawn in front of the the cottage (which is on the left side of this picture, with the chapel on the right) between the house and the old gravestones .\u00a0 It was a beautiful sunny afternoon with a clear blue sky and the\u00a0 border of flowers against the cottage front wall was in full display, as shown in the picture. <a href=\"http:\/\/genealogygals.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/12\/IMG_1298.jpg\" target=\"_blank\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignright\" style=\"background-image: none; padding-top: 0px; padding-left: 0px; display: inline; padding-right: 0px; border: 0px;\" title=\"IMG_1298\" src=\"http:\/\/genealogygals.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/12\/IMG_1298_thumb.jpg\" alt=\"IMG_1298\" width=\"244\" height=\"184\" border=\"0\" \/><\/a> We sat around a low table on which there was a tea pot, cups on saucers, and a plate piled high with \u201crock cakes\u201d made by our hostess that day.\u00a0 After we had all been served with a first round of tea and cakes, she brought out a plate of freshly-baked lemon cake.\u00a0 Yum!\u00a0 There were books piled in the corners to look through when I could pull myself away from the conversation, which meandered from Denman family history to Mr. Maguire\u2019s archival interests to current-day church interests.<\/p>\n<p>There were two particularly interesting experiences that afternoon.\u00a0 One was seeing the chapel itself and the memorial tablets around the room.<a href=\"http:\/\/genealogygals.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/12\/IMG_1306.jpg\" target=\"_blank\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignright\" style=\"background-image: none; padding-top: 0px; padding-left: 0px; display: inline; padding-right: 0px; border: 0px;\" title=\"IMG_1306\" src=\"http:\/\/genealogygals.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/12\/IMG_1306_thumb.jpg\" alt=\"IMG_1306\" width=\"244\" height=\"184\" border=\"0\" \/><\/a>The other was the adventure of climbing down an old wooden ladder into the cellar of the old cottage and seeing the bare stones and original underpinnings of the structure.\u00a0 One of the stones could be seen to have a number carved into it but I could not tell if it was part of a date or something else.\u00a0 Unfortunately, the crypt under the chapel which contains my putative relatives is no longer accessible.\u00a0 Recent work on the floor covered over the entry \u2013 no clue why they would think no one would want to see old graves\/memorials!\u00a0 So the archival notes by Mr. Maguire and the memorial tablets in the chapel itself are all that is left.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>So we set off to spend an afternoon in Ditchling with our new-found cousins and to meet the widow of the archivist for the Old Meeting House and another avid Denman researcher (who is related to the Sussex Denmans but &hellip;<\/p>\n<p class=\"read-more\"> <a class=\"more-link\" href=\"https:\/\/genealogygals.com\/blog\/an-afternoon-in-ditchling\/\"> <span class=\"screen-reader-text\">An Afternoon in Ditchling<\/span> Read More &raquo;<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[18,313],"class_list":["post-5965","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-misc","tag-denman-family","tag-ditchling"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/genealogygals.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/5965","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/genealogygals.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/genealogygals.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/genealogygals.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/genealogygals.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=5965"}],"version-history":[{"count":6,"href":"https:\/\/genealogygals.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/5965\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":5971,"href":"https:\/\/genealogygals.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/5965\/revisions\/5971"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/genealogygals.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=5965"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/genealogygals.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=5965"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/genealogygals.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=5965"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}