{"id":6837,"date":"2018-06-20T15:33:23","date_gmt":"2018-06-20T19:33:23","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/genealogygals.com\/blog\/?p=6837"},"modified":"2019-11-11T10:24:18","modified_gmt":"2019-11-11T14:24:18","slug":"lyle-minor-denman-1896-1997-52-ancestors-24-fathers-day","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/genealogygals.com\/blog\/lyle-minor-denman-1896-1997-52-ancestors-24-fathers-day\/","title":{"rendered":"Lyle Minor Denman (1896-1997) &#8211; 52 Ancestors # 24 Father&rsquo;s Day"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Since Sunday June 17th is designated as Father\u2019s Day in the U.S. I will focus on Lyle M. Denman, my maternal grandfather.\u00a0\u00a0 I have written about my paternal grandfather <a href=\"http:\/\/wp.me\/pCK9E-1IK\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">previously<\/a>, and although I have written a number of times about my maternal grandfather I haven\u2019t devoted a post to him exclusively.\u00a0 So here it is.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/genealogygals.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/06\/Lyle-from-Lyle-and-Helen-pic.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft size-thumbnail wp-image-6842\" src=\"http:\/\/genealogygals.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/06\/Lyle-from-Lyle-and-Helen-pic-142x150.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"142\" height=\"150\" srcset=\"https:\/\/genealogygals.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/06\/Lyle-from-Lyle-and-Helen-pic-142x150.jpg 142w, https:\/\/genealogygals.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/06\/Lyle-from-Lyle-and-Helen-pic-284x300.jpg 284w, https:\/\/genealogygals.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/06\/Lyle-from-Lyle-and-Helen-pic-100x106.jpg 100w, https:\/\/genealogygals.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/06\/Lyle-from-Lyle-and-Helen-pic-150x159.jpg 150w, https:\/\/genealogygals.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/06\/Lyle-from-Lyle-and-Helen-pic-200x212.jpg 200w, https:\/\/genealogygals.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/06\/Lyle-from-Lyle-and-Helen-pic-300x317.jpg 300w, https:\/\/genealogygals.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/06\/Lyle-from-Lyle-and-Helen-pic.jpg 330w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 142px) 100vw, 142px\" \/><\/a>Lyle was the second child and only son born to F.A. Denman and Mary L. Minor.\u00a0 Although I had always had a full birth date for him, it was only recently that I <a href=\"http:\/\/wp.me\/pCK9E-1Gu\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">actually found<\/a> an official record of his birth.\u00a0 The family was living on a farm in Florence Township, Erie, Ohio although as Lyle described it his parents <a href=\"http:\/\/wp.me\/pCK9E-ko\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">moved into town<\/a>, Wakeman, Ohio, when he was about 5\u00a0 years old, and his mother was pregnant with his younger sister Doris.\u00a0 <a href=\"http:\/\/genealogygals.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/06\/Lyle-1913.jpg\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignright wp-image-6844 size-thumbnail\" src=\"http:\/\/genealogygals.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/06\/Lyle-1913-128x150.jpg\" alt=\"Lyle Denman 1913\" width=\"128\" height=\"150\" srcset=\"https:\/\/genealogygals.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/06\/Lyle-1913-128x150.jpg 128w, https:\/\/genealogygals.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/06\/Lyle-1913-255x300.jpg 255w, https:\/\/genealogygals.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/06\/Lyle-1913-100x117.jpg 100w, https:\/\/genealogygals.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/06\/Lyle-1913-150x176.jpg 150w, https:\/\/genealogygals.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/06\/Lyle-1913-200x235.jpg 200w, https:\/\/genealogygals.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/06\/Lyle-1913-300x352.jpg 300w, https:\/\/genealogygals.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/06\/Lyle-1913.jpg 338w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 128px) 100vw, 128px\" \/><\/a>(Lyle was wrong about the something here: his younger sister Doris wasn&#8217;t born until he was ten years old but the family moved into Wakeman more like 1901-1902 when he was younger.)\u00a0\u00a0 Although Lyle&#8217;s older sister started school out in the country,\u00a0 Lyle attended school in Wakeman from the beginning, and\u00a0 graduated from high school in 1913, which he said was a year early because he had skipped the 2nd grade.\u00a0 After working a year after high school, and taking a couple of business skill courses (touch typing and accounting), he attended a year at Ohio State in Columbus.\u00a0 He wanted to be an electrical engineer.<\/p>\n<p>My grandfather was a talker and a story-teller, and my mother did 2 series of interviews with him in his later years, so I have a fair amount of information about his life from those.\u00a0 He was also a <a href=\"http:\/\/wp.me\/pCK9E-jt\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">foodie<\/a>, interested in people, and interested in how things worked or went together.\u00a0 Grandpa Lyle worked at a variety of jobs over the years, starting as a youngster working in his father\u2019s fields and mill, and traveling the local area to sell their produce and flours.\u00a0 For awhile he used the local train, inter-urban, system to travel to various nearby towns selling to various stores etc.\u00a0 Lyle didn\u2019t have enough money to go back to Ohio State after his first year,\u00a0 and so instead worked in an uncle\u2019s store in Lorain, Ohio that was a supply store for the boats on Lake Erie that moved coal and steel.\u00a0 That job lasted until the war in Europe had caused the military draft to be instituted in America (1917).<\/p>\n<p>Lyle left his uncle\u2019s marine supply shop and worked for a few months as an office boy in the Lorain steel plant and then in the local bank in Lorain.\u00a0 He was drafted and got married and went into the Army between April and <a href=\"http:\/\/genealogygals.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/06\/LyleCena.jpg\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignright wp-image-6846\" src=\"http:\/\/genealogygals.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/06\/LyleCena-102x150.jpg\" alt=\"Cena and Lyle Denman, April 1918\" width=\"150\" height=\"220\" srcset=\"https:\/\/genealogygals.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/06\/LyleCena-102x150.jpg 102w, https:\/\/genealogygals.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/06\/LyleCena-205x300.jpg 205w, https:\/\/genealogygals.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/06\/LyleCena-100x147.jpg 100w, https:\/\/genealogygals.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/06\/LyleCena-150x220.jpg 150w, https:\/\/genealogygals.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/06\/LyleCena-200x293.jpg 200w, https:\/\/genealogygals.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/06\/LyleCena-300x440.jpg 300w, https:\/\/genealogygals.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/06\/LyleCena-450x660.jpg 450w, https:\/\/genealogygals.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/06\/LyleCena-600x880.jpg 600w, https:\/\/genealogygals.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/06\/LyleCena.jpg 652w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 150px) 100vw, 150px\" \/><\/a>August 1918.\u00a0 His stint at the bank and doing accounting and office work led to an assignment with the mess hall sergeant to help with his books, and then to do office work with the medical detachment to the Officers Training School.\u00a0 This led Lyle to apply for officers training and he was given an appointment for an interview on the 11th of November, the day the Armistice was signed.\u00a0 Shortly thereafter he got himself a hardship discharge through the bank job in Lorain and was able to return to his new wife and civilian life.\u00a0 He worked for the bank, then briefly with his uncle\u2019s store again as a partner.\u00a0 Things were difficult with his uncle as a partner, however, and Lyle now had a family to support.\u00a0 Thinking he could do better working for someone else, he negotiated a job with the G. H. Hammond meat packing company out of Chicago (where the marine store had gotten most of its meat) to do sales for them.\u00a0 Lyle worked for Hammond, in several different territories for a number of years.\u00a0 By about 1924 he was centered in Canton, Ohio and the family lived there for close to 30 years.\u00a0 Lyle moved from outside sales exclusively to including office work, eventually becoming a credit manager for the meat packing company.<\/p>\n<p>During the Great Depression he did not lose his job but his salary was cut in half and he lost the house he had bought, needing to move the family to a rental across town.\u00a0 City directories have allowed me to track the family\u2019s movements in Canton, and reminded me that Lyle and grandma Cena moved south to Texas in about 1952.\u00a0 I think Lyle was slowing down but was not ready to retire completely, and in addition I think they wanted to move closer to their son and to get away from the cold snowy Ohio winters.\u00a0 Lyle continued to work in Texas, in shoe sales I remember, as well as being a civilian employee at the Air Force Base for awhile.\u00a0\u00a0 He may have done other jobs as well.<\/p>\n<p>Texas offered fishing and swimming in the ocean <a href=\"http:\/\/genealogygals.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/06\/Lyle-Sept-1964.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignright size-thumbnail wp-image-6849\" src=\"http:\/\/genealogygals.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/06\/Lyle-Sept-1964-150x150.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"150\" height=\"150\" srcset=\"https:\/\/genealogygals.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/06\/Lyle-Sept-1964-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/genealogygals.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/06\/Lyle-Sept-1964-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/genealogygals.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/06\/Lyle-Sept-1964-100x100.jpg 100w, https:\/\/genealogygals.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/06\/Lyle-Sept-1964-200x200.jpg 200w, https:\/\/genealogygals.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/06\/Lyle-Sept-1964-450x451.jpg 450w, https:\/\/genealogygals.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/06\/Lyle-Sept-1964-600x601.jpg 600w, https:\/\/genealogygals.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/06\/Lyle-Sept-1964.jpg 649w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 150px) 100vw, 150px\" \/><\/a>and new places to discover, new weather to experience, and young grandchildren to visit.\u00a0 After my uncle and his family settled in San Antonio and then my cousins started leaving home, my grandparents moved from Harlingen, Texas to San Antonio in about 1968.\u00a0 This picture was taken in September 1964 and is how Lyle looked pretty much my whole childhood.<\/p>\n<p>After Grandma Cena died in 1971, Lyle pretty quickly found himself married to another widow, which gave him a new family to take be interested in as well.\u00a0 He and Frances were married for nine years before she died.\u00a0 Lyle was already 84 years old, but decided he was lonely for companionship.\u00a0 Thinking back to his earlier days, and to his wife Cena&#8217;s concern that he should remarry, he contacted an old work friend in Florida and started visiting her.\u00a0 He was very persuasive and it wasn&#8217;t long before he and Hazel married and he relocated to Jacksonville, Florida.\u00a0 He and Hazel only had three years together before she died.<\/p>\n<p>After Hazel died, Lyle was persuaded to try living in Massachusetts near his daughter Elizabeth, my mother.\u00a0 It turned out that this was too big a change for him, and he moved back to San Antonio nearer my uncle and where he knew his way around.\u00a0 The weather was preferable as well!\u00a0 I&#8217;m not sure how long he was able to live independently after that, and he spent the last years of his life at a residence that provided assisted living to nursing home care.\u00a0 He apparently settled in there comfortably and for some time was known as &#8220;the Mayor&#8221; because of his presence everywhere and knowing and taking care of so many of the other residents.\u00a0 Lyle developed cognitive issues and then dementia and died after a very long and full life, one day short of his 101st birthday.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Since Sunday June 17th is designated as Father\u2019s Day in the U.S. I will focus on Lyle M. Denman, my maternal grandfather.\u00a0\u00a0 I have written about my paternal grandfather previously, and although I have written a number of times about &hellip;<\/p>\n<p class=\"read-more\"> <a class=\"more-link\" href=\"https:\/\/genealogygals.com\/blog\/lyle-minor-denman-1896-1997-52-ancestors-24-fathers-day\/\"> <span class=\"screen-reader-text\">Lyle Minor Denman (1896-1997) &#8211; 52 Ancestors # 24 Father&rsquo;s Day<\/span> Read More &raquo;<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[378,18,78],"class_list":["post-6837","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-misc","tag-52-ancestors","tag-denman-family","tag-wakeman-ohio"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/genealogygals.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/6837","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/genealogygals.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/genealogygals.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/genealogygals.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/genealogygals.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=6837"}],"version-history":[{"count":12,"href":"https:\/\/genealogygals.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/6837\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":7279,"href":"https:\/\/genealogygals.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/6837\/revisions\/7279"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/genealogygals.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=6837"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/genealogygals.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=6837"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/genealogygals.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=6837"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}